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ASME B30 and P30 Developments

ASME B30 and P30 Developments

Enjoy the resources!  You will find the pdf presentation, video, and transcription of the webinar below. This webinar originally aired live on September 7, 2012.

  • ASME B30.1 through B30.30
  • New Volumes Under Development
  • Major Standard Updates, 2008-to-present

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Christina: Hello everyone, and welcome to today’s webinar. My name is Christina Lanham and I am a training solutions associate with ITI. With me is our marketing and events associate, Katelyn Maury. For our regular attendees, you may realize this is not the voice of your usual presenter. I am filling up for Zack Parnell, who was unable to be here today. This is our 7th webinar this year, and we are excited that over 12,000 people have taken time out to join us in this event. Today’s webinar is going to be on ASME P30 and B30 development. I can’t think of anyone better to talk on this subject than Mike Parnell. Just a reminder to you all, we will be doing a quiz at the end of the session, and you could earn up to $50 at ITI bookstore.

 

If you have not filled out the quiz yet, it is now available at the box below for you to download it. For new attendees, I want to take a moment to introduce you to ITI and tell you what we’re all about. For over 25 years, we’ve been conducting crane and rigging training for companies around the world. We are passionate about helping people build stronger skill sets in the field, so they can create a safer work environment and go home to their families each night. As reflected in our webinar today, companies and a variety of industries are involved in crane and rigging activities. Here you can see just a sampling of companies that we have worked with over the years.

 

Mike will be providing a lot of information to you today. If you miss something or cannot stay the whole time, remember you can download the presentation and watch previous webinars on our website at ITI.COM/SHOWCASE. As I mentioned earlier, I can’t imagine anyone better to present today’s webinar than Mike Parnell. He’s been involved in ASME for a number of years and has a great amount of information he can part to everyone. So, again, just a reminder the link is in the chat box to download the questions if you have not already. I am going to pass the conference over to Mike and he can get started.

 

Mike: Welcome everybody. We’re very glad that you are here. I’m going to make sure we’ve got our screen up and everybody sees our screen there. Hi and welcome. We’re very glad that everyone is able to spend a little time with us on this Friday. We have the privilege of having 18 different countries that have been registered for this, corporations from these countries and 39 states, and 3 provinces in Canada. So, we’re over 227 folks registered for this and a lot have come up at this point to rousing walk through for the ASME B30 and some of the P30 items. Let’s move forward. As you know, you’re able to contact Christina with some questions that you have. I would like to start right off with 2 questions earlier that started off during the registration and I’m going to pull one up. This question is by Dean Pat, Missouri for pre-stress capping. Dean’s asking a question about high off or using during re-roping project, for putting new rope on the machine. I just pulled these up this morning before we got started, this particular series here, actually somebody working one time this audit. I just kind of left, as you can see, it’s pretty wet up there. Things required.  Obviously, we’re always looking for 5,000 pound or more for anchor, for our lanyard to connect to, a hard sling to a lanyard, to a dead end connection. A qualified person needs to find that, or identify that, and just very much advice to contact the crane manufacturer and identify that this is the target tie-off point that we’d like to tie off when we’re accessing the crane in an elevated work position. Get the manufacturer’s approval, is really the best step to take, and they may also give advisement to weld or attach specific hard points for connection. It would be up to the manufacturer to give those specific instructions, and obviously welding on a crane is really a hazardous task. We want specific information; they may have a smoke-on connection or pad eyes that we can connect to while we’re up. Don’t do anything with the crane without first checking with the manufacturer first and getting approval in writing. Quite often, in Woodland and other locations, we’ll use earl wood applications for processing and quite often, using the pre-approved systems.

 

So, Dean, to answer your question, we’re looking for a minimum of anchorage point, tie-off is absolutely critical, and it is a part of the, if you’ll notice in the new construction for those of you that have it, it’s 29 PFR 1926.1400, and it does address or talk about during a perfections and other work related the fall rest and hoist protection is required. So either fined those places. You know, I tied-off over here on this 6 by 6 tipping protection; also there are anchor points out on the crane that we had to tie-off to, and then tied off into that earl wood platform. So make sure it’s absolutely required, but check with the manufacturer if you’re going to weld or bolt to a crane component. A good question, Dean. I appreciate that very much.

 

Let’s take a look at another question we had. We pull this guy up. And question from Morale Edhart Narasimhan, the question is, hook latches on all hooks. Just thinking about that, and I’ll break it down. The easiest way to reflect on this, this particular section that is highlighted in front of you here from ASME B30.10 and it talks about latches. If you’ll notice, when a latch is provided, it shall be designed to retain such items and so on? Over in the removal criteria section, it says, down an inoperative latch if required. So there are two areas there, and that should be a tip off to us that latches are not required in all cases. It depends on the country you’re working in and what I would suggest to you is, to think about it this way, that the machine requires latches. So that would crane placed both electric and manual come along, anything that actually moves, it moves, the rigging moves the load. Moves require latches. And you’ll see that within each of the ASME documents, any time we have machinery with airing and air systems etc., helping hoister move a load, latches are required on those hooks. You won’t see it, as a general rule, as an absolute requirement for sling. It’s not required, however, I’ll just say that it’s a recommendation and we certainly like to see those to help the hook engaged. But it is not required for slings or other non-machine applications. I hope that answered your question. Great question – we have two more that have been asked, but I’m going to hold those to the end of our presentation.

 

We have, we’ll be able to cover a number of those items during the presentation that Nathan Jacobson and Mark from Kiewit and Nathan from Crane Industry Services, I hope to address those before the end. There is a quiz today, about this, and let’s have some fun with it. There are some gifts. We just know we try it one time and see how it works. Our primary content is about some of the ASME updates. As you know, I am not a paid representative, and I don’t speak ASME, I am a volunteer most like everyone else. So you’ll want to get your ASME document on hand, take a look at those, make sure you’re familiar with them and your company adheres to those. A lot of folks do. Start designing your crane rigging around many of the requirements that you’ll find within the ASME doc. The equipment covered within the ASME of course, continues to expand. I will say, and I’ll comment as we go through. We will do really, a live review for 30 volumes really quickly here. To start off, Jack and rollers on point 1, and this is just a laundry list. It continues down, we have some brand new ones down here that we’ll be discussing as well. Let’s take a look and see point 1.

If you’ll follow me in this process. You’ll notice that the standard volume is listed in the upper left top header, and then the name of the document is listed as well. We determine, from this particular subcommittee, it was just Jack at that time, the mechanical and hydraulic, and we have industrial rollers and high chapters, air lifting bag, hydraulic entry systems, and we thought about naming it just Jack and friends, but we went ahead and gave a laundry list of all the different types of equipment there. We actually have chapters 1 and 2, now our mechanical and hydraulic jack 3, 4, 5 and 6, and we’re actually adding a new 7 that’s been approved by the main committee. We will be working on that, the due date is 2014, so there are a number of folks hard at work to get strain jacks included, and then we’ll call within the Jack, B30.1. it was published in ’04 and revised in ’09, and I would suggest that if you have any of that type of equipment, and a lot of folks use the machine removing jacking, industrial rollers, synthetic rollers, Hillman and multi-point type  rollers, all those, if you have that equipment in house or in hand. Certainly, something to get your hands on and take a look - got an excellent rigging and operating practices section in it. All the sections involved talks about blocking out of levelness, all the things that have to do with supporting and supplementing the activities related to a stone. I would strongly suggest you get involved, get that purchased and get it in house. The next point we’re just going to spend a few minutes on the direction to discuss some of the items as they point to overhead and gantries. As the initial ASME documents go back many years, we’re one time over MC, they have direct control over the funds out to ASME group and we still report to MC. If you could look at the number of the documents, this case .2, it’s an old document and it’s been around a long time, but there are a lot of new updates to it. Just things that are happening that we want to be cognizant of.  The next revision is 2015, and what they’re working on right now, minimum breaking force, we’re used to have a term over all of these standards called Minimum Breaking Strength, and adopting some of the ISO some of the European verbiage, the wire technical board, WRTD, as some provided a new definition and you’ll see this minimum break force, it is replacing the minimum breaking strength and that will be in almost all hoisting volumes, and it will be in the new standard B30.30, which is at the very end of the presentation here, and it talks about the catalog breaking strength, but it is a better definition to load classification than breaking strength.

 

There are new labeling requirements that are being imposed. How many times did we get onto a panic control and you see the buttons there all worn off, can’t identify which buttons does what? And or which direction? We recognized some problems in the industry and working hard to fix that. Maintenance programs to be implemented in chapter 4, which is really good. Then the training requirement. What you’ll end up finding is that, folks that and this will be across the board, different kinds of equipment. Training requirements for the different actual operator or an operator in training, care, or maintenance/repair folks, so there are training requirements for all. Maintenance mechanics that have to work on a crane have to be marginally or provisionally trained and how to operate a crane in order to accomplish the work. So operator training requirement will cover a whole group of folks as we go forward. Agent responsibility and I believe they’ll also be entertaining or involving the lift director, site supervisor, and all those elements will be rolled into .2. This is a, by the way, we put in an offering that would also provide to you some request for interpretation, and provided recently, to the main from the vice chair of the ASME. So, I offered to bring out some of the requests from different folks in the industry, had B30 and entertain.

 

Here’s one question, and these are all, they’re typically posted at the back of the volume. We’ve pared an amount and brought them to you. For overhead cranes, there’s a load test requirement in section 2-2.2.2.2 address the load test of the underlying support structure. So if you might think about a crane that runs on a bridge and the trolley system is there, the hoist, tuck, and block and so on, the idea is that through the load test, does the load test also provide some verification of load test, verification for the underlying proportion structure, which would be the column and runways. That is really the core of the question. I’ll give you the answer here. No. it only provides a test for the actual crane itself, and it does not supply any verification of the runway system because it’s only about the machine. Think about that, we’re only able to bring a machine like this on a truck, and put it on any kind of support structure and so the test is really only about the crane. It’s not about what it’s sitting on. So we should always make sure we have the runway support system well engineered and the column to the engineer as well as the foundation that the columns are resting on. That’s an all different area of attention that needs to be paid by separate entities and can be contracted by the site or location. ASME can’t reach half the machines of what helps users try to look and perform. So the putting structure is not as included as the verification element in the load test. Excellent question, here’s another one for overhead cranes. Again, for the load test, you can conduct it using test weight equal to 100% of the rated capacity. The answer to that one, of course, rated 40+ members of the committee said yes, if you had a test weight that was verifiable and you had a 10,000 pound crane you want to put 20,000 loads underneath it to perform 100% test lift that would be fine. That would be in place of actually, a dynamometer crane field because right away, they perform the same service than they were certified.

 

Here’s another question, request for interpretation if the test weight is at 100% of the rated capacity, can the load rating be certified, if not kind of a troubling question to ASME. Certified at 100% of its rated capacity, the answer to that is, ASME – this is just a response to interpretation- does not certify an activity however the load rating can be verified at 100% rated capacity. What can be great at this is document that verifies the test weight was used, the test date, signature of the tester, and the document that explains the entire crane activity. This weight and the process, it would not be okay to say it was a certified it was a certified ASME test. That’s not accurate at all. It is a test performed by the owner of the crane at their arm’s length by a third party or someone in house, but it’s simply then that the crane has been verified, the safety word being verified there to meet the covert requirement. In many cases, it should not cases of shell, but it should be a good idea to do on original installation or major repair.

 

Let’s go on to B30.3 for power crane. This really is about construction tower crane, it’s not about shipyard and other permanent installation handled in volume. This is really that construction type power crane that’s directed on site. Extra provision planned for 2012, and responsibilities under that section will detail web director site, director crane owner, crane operator, and crane user. As you know we are moving forward with heavy use in term and phrase lift director and lots of other folks in lots of other volumes building up to the P30 document for lift planning, so we’ll see that heavily incorporated into this document. This signals system will be upgraded, secure communication, hardwire communication, and so on. We’ll see a number of really good revisions coming out of .3. Peter Juron is the chair for that. He is an outstanding leader, and has assembled a great team to work with him. We’ve got all the names of the folks, if you have any questions about who are the chairs for some of these, you want to e-mail me do so, and I’ll have a particular question on a particular volume. Let’s see, power crane developed new signals communications systems below circles. Do we have, I know our staff has put in some of these to break up our monotonous presentations, so, B30.4 is pedestal and small crane, and this is a long term committee. Theirs is next to upgrade current volume from libraries in 2010, that’ll be 2015. You’ll notice again, we have all the responsibilities as regards to lift director, preventative maintenance program is all planned to be in this new volume. Then of course power cranes will remove from this and they created additional definitions for boom stop and some of the criteria on bumper and bumper based on the rolling gantry being able to be impacted on a certain course, feed, and weight of machine and so on, then expanded on the operator complications.

 

B30.5 – one of the biggest volumes that we have in terms of tension. In our organization, mobile cranes and locomotion cranes, of course, you’ll notice that the old B30.15 address some mobile cranes and that volume was discontinued and wrapped into .5. So you’ll notice 15 are actually missing from our list and poured into .5 a number of years ago.  Operator training is required by ASME and that is for operators, operators in training, and maintenance personnel that will all be coming in the future. If some of those elements are already covered. You’ll notice that ASME doesn’t require certification, certification is required by OSHA. So realized and understand the difference that ASME is all about the training and use of the equipment and OSHA has gotten involved now in a big way in certification of operators, that’s coming up in 2014. That certification will come about. Lots of folks have already been certified starting 1995 in a voluntary process, and of course, in 2010 we have a new 1926.400 construction crane document, that from today forward to 2014, you’ll need to be a training qualified or certified, but in November of 2014, they will drop that sort of certification. That’s for construction crane operators. We have numerous discussions and webinars about whether general industry folk may fall into that, and if you do fall into construction work, those operators will need to be certified. But if it’s strictly general industry, where you’re doing planned repairs and maintenance as required by the manufacturer of the machinery you’re working on, then that may stay on motor and general industry category and not require operator certification.

 

Let’s take a look, the next revision is 2016. They have a brand new one, actually, so if you’ll check your library if have the 2011 revision. They have added some definitions for critical rigging activity, wire rope, term again that has replaced breaking strength, new requirement for labels and controls, sure sizes have been clarified and phrase of load weight chart replaces load weight capacity chart, there’s a number of new elements in there and I know that that is a very hardworking committee- I see them working almost always two days before every other committee, presenting their findings at the main committee, and they just work on a year round basis to provide upgrades, and interpretation for that subcommittee. Chris Ryan is the chairman for that. Chris is in Louisiana, Chris survived a 13 level Isaac that went through there recently, and Chris worked with Folk Brothers, outstanding chair and is providing that leadership for the group for a long time. He is surrounded by some very talented individuals that work with him. If you have some questions about that, you need to get with me, and I can potentially get you in touch with Chris Ryan.

 

Let’s keep moving along here. Additional to, in B.30.5 here’s a request for interpretation that was sent in – Is the crane owner required to provide qualified rigger for lifting operations? That was sent to the B30.5 subcommittee. So is the owner required? When the owner delivers a crane to the site, is he required to provide a rigger for lifting operations? The .5 committee said no, obviously that would be quite a bit on the shoulders of the site owner, or by contract, who’s providing personnel. The crane owner could be providing potential crane operator with that machine, but the rigger/signal person, laborers, all those things may come under different headings and different corporations, subcontractors, etc.it would not be the obligations of the owners to provide rigger, so that is the answer there by the subcommittee. Another one is request for interpretation – Is the crane owner allowed to accept the load weight information provided by the site? So when you go into the B30.5 volume, you’ll notice that, out of those 5 folks that are listed there, the lift director/site supervisor operator, owner, and user the lift director and site supervisor, in effect, are to provide, by one way or the other, provide the operator with the load weight. Once that’s done, the question is, is the operator allowed to simply accept that weight, provided to another site? So that’s really the question and the answer is yes. That is part of the process; assign those to individuals of lift director/site supervisor. The lift director supervise that weight to the operator and so it is, once it’s provided, you’ll have responsible party to give you some information on what you’re about to lift. That is the decision tree and work flow plan that we are trying to encourage in the U.S. and get things moving. Here’s another question – by the way- for all the questions, when an interpretation comes out, what happens is it’s sent to the B30 subcommittee and the secretary ends up sending it to B30 chair of that volume, Chris Ryan at B30.5, and the subcommittee provides a response, they in turn send it to the main committee for approval. It’s under the main committee’s signature that all responses are released. So the main committee will then send it to the B30 subcommittee for publication. The response by the subcommittee right here is a suggestion to the main committee- the main committee actually has to review it, there are actually 40 folks that do that, and they in turn get it published and sent out. So when I tell you that the subcommittees are responding it, they typically make the initial response and the main committee has to provide an agreement for that. In some cases, it may be some wording, it may not be a satisfactory response and may be pushed back to the subcommittee.

 

Let’s take a look at this question – is the crane operator not responsible for improper rigging that is out of his view? You’ll notice how complete, a negative question meaning a negative – we’re not it here, that is improper and out of his view. So, it’s rather a tricky question, you’ll have to deal with it in that phrase. So is the operator not responsible for improper rigging, another way to say that would be – is the crane operator responsible for proper rigging out of his view? There’s a lot of ways to dice this up, but I want you to see the tone and method in which the question was submitted, that we on the main committee have to answer that. The answer is, yes, the crane operator is not responsible for hazardous conditions not under his control. Here is the idea, it could be a blind tag and something could happen on the other side of the wall that the operator can’t see. He is responsible for bad rigging or poor rigging method that is out of his view. He is not responsible, and here is the answer again, he is not responsible for hazardous conditions no under his control. If you’ll remember years ago, the operator was responsible any time you pick a load up from day to day, sense to sense all over the property. We’ve been able to slim that  down to – let’s make the operator responsible to things that are only associated directly with the crane, the load chart, the rating – all the things pertinent to the crane and not anything beyond that. That are people in personnel that we now start to identify, more specifically and pointedly to help handle things are pass the crane hooks that really can’t be. It could be a power crane that we’re seeing feet above and through the fog, you can’t see anything. You have to take a look at what actually can be managed or controlled. You can control the amount of weight you can pick up, verify that, and then confirm its crane capacity and crane setup and all those other things. But things are out of his control, they’re off the table, off the list. Let’s go take a look at B30.6 they’re there. This isn’t a very fast moving committee only propose to equipment more efficient. Thank you for that.

 

Let me go back. It is – this will have a new publication coming up very soon. The things don’t change very often for this industry, for this group. Their extra provision will be in about a few years. Under B30.7 winches, let’s take a look there. You’ll remember that this was called at one time, base amount drum hoist, and they mounted drum hoist –it’s really all about vertical lifting. While we’ve been able to reorganize that so it can be for horizontal and vertical work. You’ll notice this is sort of the entry point. It’s kind of cool because we’re able to introduce new wording here, load handling activity, which was birthed under B30.7 and that meant either moving the load vertical, horizontal or some other direction other than up and incline. Once we’re able to start load handling activity, this doesn’t mean lifting, then we’re able to absorb that and put it into Jack, because Jacks can be used to push a little sideways, rollers of course, and we’re going to see that potentially with slings and other equipment that is not just about lifting, but construction and overcome friction, overcoming the load weight before getting something to move forward horizontally. This has been re-termed winches, so it’s not just restricted to this base amount drum point, and it has gone through a new re-write. Really good document for anybody using winches, blow makers, tight fitter and other folks. It’s got a brand new volume 2011, get your hands on it, it’s a really good upgrade, and we’ll start to see some of those responsibilities imported into the revisions. Let’s take a look, then, all efforts made to being changed winch volumes to friendlier user standard as being great reception. So we have a common group that’s able to put some pictures with it. B30.8 is very good; it has gone through a number of new generational stuff, look for new definitions of liquid free surface, low line. This is really good- we’ve had a number of barge failures with crane awning, and low large crane content. So we’re just getting much stronger language that requires structural confidence, like qualified personnel, typically, that’s going to get down to a very specific call out when you really look at the definitions, who are the marine surveyor, the marine architects, qualified engineer for those types of structures, that qualified person definition is going to carry a lot of weight when we’re trying to decide the use of the crane and barge operation and accommodation. New water type integrity requirements and with an added offshore barge as well, this is a fairly new document 2010, and the next revision is 2015. So take a look at that if you have year round operations involved. Plus, floating cranes and floating barracks. Great volume to take a look at. Also closing ozone, places that have fallen overboard. Thank you for that, Jonathan.


Let’s take a look at slings and chairman for slings. Sometimes it’s in all of life, you don’t know if you’re chasing or leading, but we’re moving forward with a lot of changes coming up. In the last revision in 2010, we had some new definitions on rated loads based on symmetrical loading, if its non-symmetrical load, then a qualified person needs to get more involved and need to determine tensions for length. we just made a clarification - there was an interesting article written by an individual or industry, talking about how many hitches do we need to have on sling tag, sort of the universe just keeps on going and going and going, and really, all of these, put it back to 1994 that we contract for 1996 ASME to current date, and OSHA to current date, all we’ve been able to identify and wanted to identify is a single hitch type and angle upon which and space, if you want to add more, that’s fine. Training and information - the tags are only so big, they’re only able to provide so much information. If you think about chain slings, chain slings typically have one rating, they may be on a single leg, it could be on a two leg with a master link up here, but two legs at 60 degrees. So if you take that sling and choke with it, then you have to have another rigging. There’s only so much room on the tag to put in so much information, so that’s why training is such an important part and knowledge by that person because we know that typically, for chain slings, we have got to reduce that capacity by 20% by choker hitch. so that’s going to take information, and that’s where qualified riggers come in, that’s where we start to apply the known rating and we make adjustments based on our load application. I will reiterate, you only have to have one rating, one hitch type, and rated load for angle. You can have 16 on there if you want, but it really only needs one as a starting point and then a qualified rigger in the field should be able to identify what that rating is adjusted to base on its application. Obviously a D to D ratio is a huge issue for wire rope slings and other types of slings, round slings like synthetic rope slings. In the D to D ratio there’s a new publication that’s been integrated, there’ll be a new D to D insertion for chain actually now. So could you put limitations on D to D ratio on a sling tag? The sling identification can only carry so much info and we’re limiting to that, so training and information has really got to help pick up the balance of it. We have load ratings based on that hinge slice slings and mechanical splice slings based on the minimum D to D ratios.

I got a great question the other day, from a client, the periodic, annual recorded, is only required to ASME for chain slings and metal mesh slings. In effect, they have shown members with them. So we have to have an individual record for those two types of slings. Those are individual record, annual periodic inspection for chain and metal mesh, all others only require that we document that the inspection was done. There is no individual record required for wire rope slings, synthetic web slings, synthetic round slings, or synthetic rope slings. A single document can be a time card for an employee, could be a single entry document that goes into your files that on this date, we did all synthetic sling inspections, and building sides, we inspected 86 of them and rejected 12 of them. The 12 needs to replaced and so on, there is no - we only need the document, did we do it? That’s what’s required, but there’s not an individual record required for these four types of slings, only the fact that it was done. These do not get individually show membered general rule, nor are they required, so there will be no way to track it to identify all those inspection documents. Only chain slings and metal mesh are required to have that individual record for inspection. Broken wire was added for cable web slings, and we have some new definitions and terms. New things happening in the synthetic rope industry and some new high strength HMPE type ropes and we have pen diameters, recommendations for sling applications by WSTDA. So get your hands on the new 2010 volume, and we have another one that we’re really working hard at to get out by 2013. We’re meeting in 3 weeks at St. Louis to continue to track more progress on that. Sling subcommittees have been requesting for developer rated capacity per dog slings. Thanks for our comedy department for dropping that for us.


Let’s take a look at hooks. The latest one is 2009. We’re going to continue to burn through this. You’ll notice that the old OSHA requirement may still be in effect of 15% spread, and 10 degree twist, what you’re going to find over time here is the ASME document is completely changed to zero twist, and 5% spread not to exceed quarter inch. This is really by consensus, the manufacturers, the users, all the folk’s players that got together and came up with this new value and measurement which is basically got to be done by helpers or some educated measuring device. That’s the change. The manufacturers love the parts for hooks, come along chain falls, crane hooks, and sling hooks, every hook under the sun. The manufacturer basically got together for the new ones being produced. If you call one today, that would be the value that they’re going to insist on is, the 5% spread not to exceed quarter and the 60 degrees twist, even though it may be still printed in OSHA they can go tighter, or more restrictive, but not more liberal. This is really the rules in the playground that we’re going to be playing by. This has been in the fact since ‘09 and before in current practice. The hooks subcommittee asked about heat damage. One of my clients sent their folks to drop this in, this is spreader bar over in the steel mill, and with a little bit of inattention on the operator’s part, here’s one hook and here’s another hook that actually went into the steel, molt steel and was just little lack a days ago. It can happen to everybody but he is going through re-training program.


On B30.11 - on this one you’ll notice there’s an approval right now, by the main committee, it’s going to get approval eventually with public review. The proposal is B30.11 AND B30.17 will be combined into one document. There’s a lot of cross-over between the equipment and relationship between the two, so this is something that’s coming in the future. I know that two subcommittees have formed into a single committee and they are putting efforts in right now to create that. It’s called the “eleventeen” temporary format. We do have a 2010 version of .11 for mounter ails on hoist and the markings are a new item on there. All sections affected, take a look at preventative maintenance, training, other elements have been upgraded in that, it will be rolled forward. I’m not sure if they’re going to beat the 2015 date, before they can get this combined document together. If not, I have to republish and go to the following revision date. They’re working hard to make those upgrades. ASME make great to help rewrite a redefinition of overload. One of our folks found this, and I thought it was really fun to put in. Could be a long day for the truck driver, my goodness. Take a look at B30.12 rotor craft, and Ted Blanton is chair for this subcommittee and doing a great job with it. As well as folks with him. Just recently in 2011 they added long line, which kind of look like slings, but they’re not slings, they’re long lines in the rotor craft industry and these could 150, 200, 250 feet long, they hang out from underneath the winch and they have a dedicated position. You’ll often see these hanging off the firefighter helicopters that hang on water baskets that help put fire out. So they call them long lines and they have their own criteria for use. Expanded maintenance requirement from primary hook. This particular volume is extremely subject to the FAA rules and some of the requirements there get integrated into the volume, and it adds the spooling requirement to add the stability to make sure it doesn’t nest rest on the drum causing shock load, shock release, and some other bad things. So, they have a new revision date coming up in 2017.

 

Alright, let’s take a look at rotor craft to provide interpretation on hair spray on blade that was very cute. Let’s take a look at rotor craft to implement synthetic charge avoidance requirements. Excellent, thank you for that. Let’s keep going 2013. This is a very small part of our market that deals with surge or drill machines. A lot of these are automated. They work off computer systems and you won’t see them in many work places and Boeing and some other folks have them, and they’re to retrieve parts or components that are in storage locations, bring them to a central point, and the employees then use those parts. The new upgrade is 2011, it does have requirements. You can’t put riders on the carriage to help pick stock and place carriage into place or tray. Safety PPE and then breaking requirements and bumpers they’ve added those free-fall stop sign charges – that’s a really good thing. Inspections assigned by designated persons. They have a new revision coming up in 2017.

 

I’d say there is probably a quarter of a quarter of one percent of our market place for machine use. But where they’re used, they can hurt people. They really do deserve some attention. Storage retrieval one man committee often requires rest between 5 year revisions. That’s not quite true, I know there’s four or five folks on them, they do keep that up to date.

B30.14, pipe boom tractors, pipe boom layers. Really a great job, Doug Smith, Chicago Bridge Iron is the chair for this one. Doug and his team have done a great job in 2010 to rewrite. It’s completely updated, completely different than the old version of side boom tractors. If you don’t have that revision, and you are using those or working around those, doing pipe lane associated work, please get your hands on it. Next revision is 2015. A lot of changes for design and construction. They are giving the operational provisions in there, you’ll notice the MLI Incorporated and for load indicators, boom load indicators, and son on, and what to do if they’re in operational. It’s a very good advancement. It’s keeping up with the electronics out there in the market to help these machines be safer and be operated within the accepted range. Owner operators are required to have special haircuts. Thanks, Doug, for that. 2016 is overhead hoist. These can be manual, electric, etc. not many changes were in 07, but they have been voting considerably. In small changes, the next revisions will be in 2012, but I expect to see, within 5 years from 2017 will be a much larger over haul of that document. It’s getting special attention; Ernie Marber and Jim Danielson are working hard to get that upgraded. We’ll see a lot of new changes in that over the next few years. Let’s take a look then at hoist committees not present in current worksite, okay. Jim & Ernie, appreciate that.


B30.17, this was the one that was going to be combined with .11. We have some similar tracking. The thing is you have to continually have to publish it until you get this merger done. You have small changes in 06 and actually this next revision is 12, going to be out very soon. What will happen is, they will continue to publish it until they get that merger revision done. We should see some changes there coming very quickly. .17 committee takes a break in the stocker get ready . Thank you for that.

.18  is stacker cranes. It’s like the retrieval cranes. Let’s go back and see. Not many changes to this one. Establish minimum bumper and buffer considerations. Tenant control marking, FPM program and record keeping, next one is 2014. This one is very much like the retrieval machines, not a lot of those in the U.S., but where they are, people do get hurt. Remember, press up to go up press down to go down. There you go. Alright, saying for the day.

 

.19, I serve on this one as well. I have a lot of fun with this one. Bob Wilde is the core engineer, currently the chair for this, Bob does a great job keeping us all in line. I have a wire rope background, so this is really fun committee for me. We have upgraded this, went through a number of enhancements, talked about things like qualified person and establishing a fee in program. Frequent inspections for requirements and to include rotational resistant rope. Talks about synthetic jibs because those can be used, and have been used in some instances. Walk out tag out program and 2016 is the next revision. A number of things will become core, these are in use to span river ways and canyons to get equipment into place. Some brand new ones have been put up in the last 5 to 8 years to help with the construction project so they’re still out there. There are a lot of standing ones out there. U.S. Geological Survey, they have 400 of them within a 5 state area, stand rubber that tests water and so.  Cableways are all around you, but you don’t see any of them. But they are really in place and in use. Cableways request for off-site installation. Well, there you go. That looks like an Oregon pictures of some type.

 

Alright, 20. This is nice. Below the hook lifting devices. ASME news for this one, don’t forget we’ll have a quiz once this is over. So keep up here. .20 is below the hook lifting devices. You all know that the design of lifting devices is in a separate part of the document, it’s called ASMEBTH-1, so when you go to our book store, or the ASME bookstore, ASMEBTH-1 is for the engineers to design these devices by. It’s been extracted from .20 so that design information was taken out from .20 and this document is really targeted towards users. For us that operate and inspect it, and handle it and all that. So this document is really user oriented. BTH-1 is design document. So if you’re looking for that design criteria, go to that BTH-1 design document. Those are some very hardworking guys. They’ve put in a lot of time, they do it right out of Houston as the new chair, Phil, BTH-1, Phil Boyd is the chair from Boeing for the B30.20, and they do marvelous work with all the folks that they work with them. The below the Hook lifting device B30.20 language has changed concerning alterations, modification, refers to rigging attachments, and components. So a spreader bar is in place and you have permanently connected chain leg drops, and what do you expect them to? So think about that for a minute. I think we have a question on this, if we take a look here. We don’t. Let’s think about that for a second. If we’ve got chain slings hanging on bar like this, I would be inspecting the B30.20 using that document to inspect those. The lifting beam and B30.9 to inspect the chain couplers, chain legs, and the hooks. We have prescript information about devices that hang off of there. In the construction and inspection requirements, we are pushed to look at those applicable volumes when we have additional items. Basically, they’re permanently attached, not when they’re just hanging on hooks and you can remove them by hand- but those that are actually dedicated to it. To be used specifically for that device. Let’s take a look and keeping going here.

 

21 is manually operated lever hoist, come-alongs. These are roller chain and chain type, there is a web type as well. There are a number of types that are used and 2010 was reaffirmed, Jim Danielson is the new chair for that. Jim is helping organizing the subcommittee with a very short 2013 revision and it will be addressing preventative maintenance, training course, etc., and other global requirements including inspection items. That committee is in a drive forward mode and they’re working hard to get that upgraded. Jim’s doing a great job. New definition for come along, everybody sees that? There we go. Don’t see that every day.

 

We go back one page, on B30.22 – Articulating Booms. These are obviously taken our marketplace by storm. A lot of these are showing up at job site. Dan Walsh did a marvelous job with this committee, getting all of the upgrades to 2010 this really is a very well done document. If you have articulating boom cranes in your fleet, or in your job site, I would definitely get my hands on this document. It details really well load ratings, load charts, for more information property position, real applications, wireless controls are now at an advantage, operational aid like moment indicator person and so on. Qualified person, maintenance programs, and so on. Next one will be enhanced in 2015, and Jack Heimer is the new chair for that, from the Navy Crane Center, he’s helping out in a great way with a lot of folks to meet with him and make this new and improved document as it goes forward. If you have some of those, please make sure to get that document.

 

Here’s a request for interpretation on our articulating knuckle booms. The load task requirement qualifies this supporting structure, which are the truck as well as the crane itself. That was sent it. What do you think was the main committee, how do you think they responded to that request? Let’s take a look. The answer is NO. The load task does not qualify the truck. It could be anybody’s truck, you put that knuckle boom onto a truck and there are certain provisions we should really be following, but the load test, what it’s supposed to do is confirm the crane’s operational performance and the truck’s stability with the specified load. That’s about as good as it gets, what we can do. ASME B30 can’t reach into if it’s a GM truck or a Ford, or Dodge, or IH, whatever truck it is, we can’t reach into that part of the world, sort of like the supporting structure on an overhead crane columns and runways, we don’t really speak to what kind of machinery this boom is sitting on. That’s really up to the owner builder manufacturer to make those determinations. The load test is only checking, is the crane doing what it’s supposed to? Operational perform? For goodness sakes, let’s find out if the crane truck tips over. That’s really about the best you can hope for out of that load test.

 

Personal listing platforms, or systems, man-baskets, B30.23. Let’s take a look. In 2010 expanded information about gate access barriers and more information about the hoisting equipment, qualified person to take a look and inspect, Beam program, prohibition for hoisting program operators. When are those prohibitions delineated? Incorporating lift director/site supervisor into their verbiage as well. The next one is coming out 2015, I know we’ve been voting seriously on the new upgrades to the B30.23, we’ll see some new things as it moves forward. One of our staff put in personal lifting system and rigging method for interior. Thank you for that.

 

24 – Container cranes. We have an all new volume. If you have container cranes that were ne in 08, the next revision is in 2013. My good friend, Jim Richardson, is the chair for that. He’s got a good fleet, folks that work with him. This is a brand new document. Was in the wings for B30 for years. Went nowhere. Jim and company, and a number of folks, stepped up and pulled the cords to it and got some good headway on it. So if you don’t have a new container crane volume, pick it up now, it’s going to be quite a while before we get to the next one. Container crane subcommittee new requirements for notices. Okay, there you go. Thank you for that. Notice the notices.

 

Let’s take a look at scrap handlers. How do these things end up in B30, and they are material handling. We have a number of folks, something that came to light was, not all of these things had seat belts or doors, or door protectors, and we were having people fall out of the units. They buck around a lot because the nature of the work, scrap handling and tossing  material and so, we were unfortunately having issues, so had to write a new PPE requirement to help keep everybody in. they are built by a number of good manufacturers, we had to make sure we also had the ways to make provision for helping the employees downstream from previous. Let me get document here, look at the next frame. Thank you for your patience. Scrap and material handling get better teeth. Thank you for that.

 

There’s one of mine that I get to sit on. Charles Lucas is the chair for this, I’m a committee member for this. Charles is the chair on rigging hardware, as you all know, that includes chapter 1 – shackles. Chapter 2- adjustable devices, like high bolts, swivel high stream, and so on. 3- Swing ring and swivels, chapter 4 – compression fittings like web sockets and cable clamps, and 5 we have LIDs- load indicating devices like dynamometers, and cautions to personnel. We have a new item that is up for consideration, we’re thinking about beam clamps and plate clamps to be moved, they’re currently sitting in B30.20 as below the hook lifting devices. So move those from B30.20 into B30.26, we think that’s the way that’s going. They are certainly gaining prevalence in the marketplace and deserve their own chapter within this rigging hardware section, and probably get better served because we get a lot more detail in the inspection and usage, instructions related to those two devices. We’ll know in the next few years if it’s going forward and see how that is able to be accomplished. Nothing is carved in stone yet, that is just a suggestion that we’ll probably go that way, but we’ll need approvals and so on from ASME for that to happen. Bringing hardware about interpretation for correct use of round length. There you go.

 

Let’s look at 27- material placement. These are pumper trucks and they have a place in ASME, they are moving material on sites, this 09 is a great standard and new one coming out in 13. There’s a lot of, been upside down with this, pumper truck industry because construction is down. I want to really caution folks as you re-employ these and put them back on projects, make sure we’ve got training for all the personnel, the pore superintendent, the operator, all the placement supervisor – all folks. If we’re not working these properly, we can really hurt a lot of folks, and get a lot in the air, stability that can be an issue if we don’t set them on solid foundation. These are going to be coming back up in a stronger way in the economy, as it picks up. We want to make sure we are attending to and having good machines work in a good area. The call systems are here to provide immediate consultation it looks like a bridge I probably wouldn’t want to be running on. Let’s take a look at load balancing.

 

This is a brand new document, 2011, these are basically the air systems for load handling on table tops and light duty items, sometimes packaging and small parts handling, sometimes anywhere from quarter ton to half ton to up 3 ton, pretty small items. They were able to be included in the last go around in 2011, and air hydraulic counterweight and systems so on. Next revision is 2015. If you have load balancers or balance lifting units in your facility you certainly want to get your hands on that. Next one in line here – we think it’s going to be this year – I’m going to actually put 2013 date on this for self-directing power cranes. We think that’s our best target date right now. Huge in Europe, getting bigger in the states. It’s a brand new standard. Dave Richie is the chair from Texas for this and he got a really strong group of folks behind him that’s helped put this together in the main committee. I think he’s done most of the voting on this, but we still need to go after public review and then to approval. There may be a few more items they need to clean up before it can be released for publications. It’ll be this sign, construction, inspection, and operation – those are always the 4 big chapter sections for pieces of machinery. If you open almost any B30 volume, machinery wise, those are going to be the 4 elements and they’ve done a super job getting that ready for us. I’m sure you’re looking forward to getting it very soon. Self-directing power crane sometimes go with progress and speed, sometimes they don’t. All those port potties going through that bridge, well you get the picture.

 

Let’s take a look. The brand new one under development – this may be a few years down the road, maybe 2014 or so, it’s called Ropes. That will likely be the official title. B30.30 this is under development and it will include wire ropes and synthetic ropes. I want you to kind of take this in with me. This is sort of like- the easiest way to think about it is- hooks, work on all kinds of equipment. Hooks work on slings, chain falls, chain hoists, come alongs, cranes, power crane, mobile cranes, hooks are spread and referred to on all ASME B30 documents. That’s really how we’re going to be pressing on B30.30 for ropes that it will be taking a place, let me just take you to the next frame, it may be a better explanation. Right now, what happens is if you can see this,  if we make one change in wire rope on the inspection, care and maintenance criteria, to get through about 15 or 18 volumes that all have rope in them it may take up to 9 years to get this one change happen in 2012 to get down to the last volume by the time we get revisions and updates. So a number of the chairman came to us and asked us if we could create a new B30.30 called ropes and extract it. So what you see is it will be within a volume, let say of .5, we’ll call this .5 mobile cranes, when you go to the rope section you’ll see ropes, replacement of ropes and etc. a lot of that information will be say, C, B30.30 and it’ll detail inspections, maintenance, care use, maybe some criteria info and so on. So it’s actually going to be taken out and moved into B30.30, just like hooks are referred B30.10 for their information. So it may likely include winches, and other materials that use synthetic ropes, as an optional type of hoisting medium, to be used. Synthetic ropes are used in winches and other applications. They’re already used for Derricks, and some are being considered in use for crane. Let’s see how that market takes into that. This is a whole new element that’s going to take place and we’re starting to see some. There’s probably 14 people on that, Dave Henagar with blight and wire rope is the chair for that, there’s about 14 of us that are serving on that subcommittee. That will be a few years before we can get that done. When we do it, it’ll be extracted from the other volumes. The game plan at the moment. Looking for that as it is being developed.

I promised you P30, update and review. I am the chairman for P30, and have the honor of serving with 20 others on the main committee, and 10 folks that are contributing members. I’ll tell you that we have an awesome team put together, Kate Heim is our P30 secretary, she is the glue that holds it all together, does a super job. We are at the first major balloting of these items. I can’t release those documents to you because ASME agreement, members of committees can’t simply just send out work product that is in progress because it all has to go through main committee voting, through ASME approval of public review and so on. We’re really in the troves. But we’re going to first ballot this month, in September, and we will try to absolve those issues in October 12 and then we go through recirculation in November and potentially finish balloting out January/February. I would really hope that we could have some things ready for AMC review by February/March of 2013. We are really close, really close to grammatical and editing, finer things, and we made super headway on it.

You’ll notice I’ve done a lift planning considerations webinar a few months ago. Many of the items that get into the classifications considerations, if you’d like to go back and visit that, you’ll probably find a lot of similarities. So if you want to catch up on what chapter 1 might look like, that would be a really good place to do it. Just a hint. Then just critical of what might be involved with critical lifts, and how to examine critical lifts are 10 items that should be considered in the critical lift formulation process, and that will get down to the load, rigging, LHE (remember that from our previous webinars, the LHE – load handling equipment), there are 10 basic steps that we’ve identified so far. It will be about the people, the execution, the prelift meeting, the lift itself, and the post lift meeting. We are currently considering different lift plans to put into the appendix, so, it’s really going to have a marvelous impact. We have couple of questions from folks about lift directors and things like that, which I’ll address in just a few minutes. Let’s see where we are.

Okay, quiz time. Hope everyone is hanging in there with me. Now, Christina has forwarded to you a link, or you’ve already downloaded a form that looks like this to the right of your screen, it’s a pdf document that you can type into it or print out and write into it, I have four different pictures to put up in front of you. One, two, three, four and there’s a series of blanks that go with each one of those. To the left, there’s a full listing of all the B30 equipment. Please get your pdf document ready to take this quiz, and I’m going to start putting up a picture here. Please take a look. What I want you to do is write in the B30 equipment that you see in the picture on section 1 of that form. Your option listing is obviously over here. Whether it’s existing – here’s the thing, listing, or under development, alright? Christina, we’re still on and good here?

Christina: We’re good to go.

Mike: Okay, here we go. So we’ve got – look at the picture really close, let me see if I can amplify the picture for you. This is in a building. Amplify for you here a little bit and move this around. Take a look at the picture there. You’ll see a variety of components and so, how many ASME volumes do you see represented by the load handling in this photo? Some of you probably see the hoisting equipment, and don’t forget, existing documents or under development. So it could be a new document and it’s listed on your sheet that you printed out. Actually, there’s, I’m going to give you a hint, there’s more than 4, and but not as many as 9. So let’s see how close you get. I’m going to give you a few more minutes to take a hard look, and I’m going to sweep this picture sideways. So let’s see. What B30 equipment do you see a sputter bar in there? That’d be a B20, if yes, fine, if no, no. what other kinds of equipment do you see on there? I’m not going to lead you on. I’m just going to give you a tip here.  I’m going to give you a different view in a minute, take a look. We’re going to time this out in just a minute, so write your list. Be writing your list down. Christina, let me know if we break communication, I’m getting some indicators in my ear here, so, if I go offline, I’ll get the phone dialed back up. Alright. Okay, we’re going to switch to the next photo. Everybody with me? Going to question #2. Get a reduced view of that in just a minute.

Here is a quiz #2 right here, so take a look. What B30 equipment volumes do you see represented, like B30.1, do you see a telescopic, hydraulic gantry system? I don’t see any there. Do you see a barge mounted crane? No, it’s on ground here. So, what do we see for the crane type, the hoisting equipment, and other associated equipment? So let me spring this up. Christina, are we all good with volume and stuff? 

Christina: It sounds fine.

Mike: Okay. I’ll ramp this up a little bit. I will tell you that this is a load indicating device. That’s a little hard to see in the picture. There’s a little silver box in the picture, and it’s got some hardware above and below it that is an LID, so I’ll give you that one. Which volume does that come from, do you remember? Making your listing so you’re going to list down which ones, B30.XYZ, which ones do you see in this listing. Take a hard look, we’re going to get ready to move forward here. You know you’ve got the load handling equipment, you know what that type is, what other items do you see? Make your list quick, and how you are doing on that. Let’s go to the next one. Everybody with me? Alright. We’re going to go to our next quiz.

Let’s take a look at the next. Quiz #3: we have probably about 4 to 7 different volumes, B30 volumes in this, somewhere in there. I’m going to help try to amplify the picture in there and I’m going to let you know. Let me go up to 150 here. We have – notice there’s a load down here- and it has some equipment around it. Those pieces of equipment go right into another set of legs or equipment, and those all go up into that orange ball holding pieces of equipment. That’s all supported by a big LHE, which is a load handling equipment machine. We should have our good list there, let’s see what you got. Alright. I’m ready to go to quiz 4, let’s do that.

Mike: How many ASME volumes do you see represented by the load handling in this photograph? Let’s take a look here. I’ll leave it open for a minute. This is inside the building. You’ll see a runway here. That runway is supporting the LHE right above it, and you’ll start to see a part of that LHE equipment up at the top, and then there are devices and devices here, and devices there, and items there. Alright, so how many you find listed for quiz 4, I will amplify that for just a moment. Then we’ll move into our answer session. I’ll pull in a little closer here, can you see a little tighter there? Everybody working along? I’ll scroll this up. We’re good there.

Alright, excellent. Let’s see how we’re going to get this done. Let’s go into the next frame here. Okay, what I’m going to ask you to do, is quiz scoring. Boy Scout honor, on my honor, so this is honor program equivalent to the Boy Scout, so be trustworthy, that’s the first law of the trust law. Be trustworthy, all pencils are down. If you’re doing it on your computer, no more computer entry. If you’re ready,   we can do the scoring now. What you’ll do is you’ll e-mail in your results to carol@iti. I’ll give you that later in the presentation. First, quiz 1. Remember that load going through that power house – here are the answers for quiz 1. Just to see how you did. We have 7 –overhead crane .2, .10 for hooks, .30 for ropes, don’t forget that’s under development, right? Everybody with me? .9 for slings, .26 for shackles and hardware, we have a hand chain hoist right here, the orange one,  and a lever hoist on the left side. So, we have come alongs and manual hoist, shackles, turn buckles, we have slings, we have the rope for the crane, which is new under development, and hooks and overhead crane, so we should have these 7 by call out for quiz 1. Alright? Hope you did good. Let’s keep going forward.

For quiz 2, that was the mobile crane, out in the yard, let’s get our answers up, the answers are six items that we’ve identified, in quiz 2. We have .5  for mobile crane .10 for hooks, we have 30 for the rope supporting the system because there’s a head fall up above, there is a .26 for rigging hardware – we have shackles, all over the place, and we have the dynamometer right there, the LID is under .26, we have a hand chain hoist right here and of course, slings throughout. So we have six items. You should have these particular six items listed on your solution for quiz 2.

Let’s go to quiz 3. That is the tower crane that was in New York City, I was there on the 4th of July, this is at across from Carnegie hall, and this is the 77th story building. Let’s take a look at the answers for this, and there are 5 of them. Item 1, out of sequence, they have to be in proper sequence but .3 for tower cranes, .10 for hooks – the hooks are always at the end of the device, .30 for the ropes, and that is under development- I told you it would be existing or under development. .9 for the slings. These are all sling assemblies, and the rigging hardware that we have incorporated into the system, and we have master links right up here that are rigging hardware. We have 5 items for that.

Let’s take a look at quiz 4. Remember that’s the indoor overhead crane with the lifting beam, and let’s see how many items we have for that, and I hope you have. Let’s get that back into view here, sorry about that. I hope you have .2 for overhead cranes, .10 for hooks, .30 for the rope, .9 for slings, we have rigging hardware – there’s swivel cranes right there in shackles of course, and finally we got one of those below the hook lifting devices, .20 for the lifting beam. So, we’re good to go there, we should have 6 items in that particular quiz. What we’d like to do is – here’s your scoring outline, you got 23 or 20 out of 24, you’re good for a 50 dollar gift certificate, if your company allows that. If you’ve got 19-22 correct, you have $25 gift certification, 15-18, and 1-12. So Carroll@iti.com is your key contact for your gift certificate at the bookstore. Okay, let’s take a look at 2 questions, and I would like to entertain those. Christina may be working on different questions at the moment.

There’s a question right now, what is by May Dickenson with Crane Industry Services, and the question is: how do you see OSHA involving the P30 in the activities? I do see it because P30 leans heavily on the lift director and a lot of the decision that person makes. You’ll notice in the new OSHA requirement, 1419 for lift director, where is one on signal systems for hand signals, voice communications additional requirements. You’ll notice we’ve got lift director highlighted there. The operator person, signal person, lift director, if there is one, they must be able to effectively communicate the language used. Also in the new construction code, 19 26 1432 for multiple crane lifts, and OSHA’s calling for a lift director, it’s a competent person qualified person who is assisted by one or more qualified persons, and they put in parenthesis lift director, and it says that the lift director must review the plan and meet with all workers. So they’ve actually called out lift director. Once you get that lift director in, it wills P30 as an industry accepted consensus document. I would tell you that it’s going to be in a few years that OSHA is going to continue to lean heavily on the ASME document, such as the P30.5, they already lean heavily on. The p30 for lift planning, it’s all going to be tied in so that when OSHA says, listen there’s no industry standard with lift planning, you drop this load, P30 is an excellent document for lift planning, why were you not using it? So, I got to tell you, next 5 years, we’re going to see a huge marriage, I think, as the OSHA folks get educated about the value of P30 and where it’s going. I think it will get more commonly referred to in a lot of the accidents that are taking place within response to those items.

Let me address this particular, Erin Grossinger from Excel Energy, if 10 of the lift director to be, basically, I’m going to call this standalone person or can ou wear multiple hats? I’m paraphrasing your question, and sorry for that. I want to get that idea here, is your question – if 10 of the lift directors or independent rigger or oversight only? So can you do more than one thing. Notice that these are the five selection areas, and assignments, and we’re commonly known about, I’m going to take you over here for a second just to different set ups that folks can. The lift director may be involved working for the site supervisor certainly, and the corporation which owns the crane, with crane operators and all that. So maybe directly involved here. The lift director can actually rig the load, he can signal the crane, can serve as the signal person, and he could be the crane user. All at the same time. He can wear multiple hats, or he can delegate and designate riggers, signal persons, and others that work with him or for him. The lift director is a person, he can, yes, wear multiple hats, it does not have to be a standalone oversight only type of position for that individual, and he can do multiple things. I would really encourage you to not have the lift director not also be the crane operator. I think you’ll really run into problems when you don’t have a person out on the ground, watching what’s happening with the load, the rigging, the site, the control, and all those things, and personnel can be in the cab at the same time. So I just that at that point, you’ve got to break that in two and have at least an operator and cab, and somebody on the ground, and he can be serving in multiple roles.

Great, I hope everybody did good on their quiz, and I’d like to see those sent in to Carol@iti. Christina, I need to ask you, are there any other questions that I can help answer. People have really done a good job. By the way, here is our little outline, this should be your answer key for that quiz. So double check your work, item 1, check those items out, item 2, 9, 10, 16, 21, 26, and 30. Quiz 2 is 5,9,10,16, 26 and 30. Question 3 is .3, 9, 10, 26 and 30, and question 4is .2, 9, 10, 26, and 30. Alright.

Christina, do we have any other questions that anybody has for us, anything I can help with?

Christina: I do have a couple of questions for you, Mike. The first one is from Jim Long sky, he’s asking- do you foresee the training requirements that are specified in B30.2, i.e. the practical written exams from certification or formal records being adopted and to B30.11, .16, and .17 in the future?

Mike: I do. I believe, expect, that the training requirements to be carried over from the overhead crane group into the overhead hoist activity area that would be .11, 16, .17, and .21, I do believe that the training will be there. What I don’t know is testing and verification. But I do believe that all of the volumes will end up with a training program in them for all the machinery type, the ASME equipment, how hard they will go with the testing, verbal or written, or by verification, practical or not, that will be yet to be seen. I do believe that the training requirements will be there. Great question, Jim, thank you for that. Any other questions?

Christina: Just one more, Mike. Nathan Dickenson with Nation Crane Services had one more – looking back at B30.2 for overhead cranes, does the railway need to be labeled for capacity?

Mike: Excellent question. Does the runway need to be labeled for capacity – not to my knowledge. It is an engineered runway. I don’t ever remember seeing that because it is an engineering function, you do not label the ground on which a crane sits up, so the runway is pre-engineered design for the bridge that sit, or multiple bridges that sit on it. So this is a B30.2 question, excellent question. To my knowledge, Nathan, that the runway does not need to be labeled, even though you can have multiple bridges running on the same runway system, the engineering for the runway and the columns for ground foundation support is simply that. They have to engineer it for worst case highest load conditions, and it’s the hoisting machinery, crane that does the lifting. That is what needs to be qualified, verified, etc., load verified and so on. That is traceable, untraceable and has a B30 volume to attend to it. But the supporting structure, I have yet to see where it has to be physically labeled. Don’t think that’s true. If you find that in the new volume B30.2, I’d sure love to see it, but at the moment, I don’t recall any labeling requirement for runways in columns. Thank you for the question.

Okay, Excellent. Christina, anything else?

Christina: That’s it, Mike.

Mike: Okay, fantastic. Listen, we had a great time with everybody today. I was through the little town gravity of Iowa and as gravity goes, we all go. I certainly agree with that. I went to the little city park in Iowa and was able to go to the center of gravity just on vacation. I don’t know if you’ll get to go to the center of gravity someday, they’d love for your to show up and throw a little gander through the town. Very nice people and it’s lovely site. So, we’ll be working with you on the next webinar on October, and I sure look forward to seeing you. Thank you for attending with us today, and if you have any questions or anything I can help you with immediately, it’s mike@iti.com and Christina, thanks for much for your help today. I look forward to visiting our friends at the industry as time goes along here. Everybody have a great weekend, take care, and we’ll be seeing you very soon. We’ll be signing off now, bye bye.